Glad to hear that, Ellen! A comment on one of my fonts is always appreciated. We get so many downloads, and so little feedback. Except koeiekat; he doesn't get many downloads.

There's probably a free demo version of Folkard somewhere on the Scriptorium website, http://www.fontcraft.com/fontcraft/#axzz2EyCtW1Ti, if mnb7 doesn't need numbers and punctuation.

Props to Nyka for six Font IDs and two pending on his/her first day in the forums!

Ellen, try opening a word document in which you have used the .ttf of Myndraine, and see if the character display is correct. Next, select the entire document, change the font to something else, save the document, and close it. Repeat for any other such documents. You won't need to delete them. The situation I described in my previous post referred to embedded fonts. When a font is embedded, someone can see the characters in use if they don't have that font installed on their computer.

If you save a document on your own computer, using a non standard font, (ie: not one of the ones everybody has installed, like Tahoma, or Comic Sans MS), but don't embed it, the document will look fine on your computer. If you e-mail the document to someone else, however, the text display on their computer will revert to Calibri or Times New Roman, depending on the version of MS Word they are using. Not all fonts can be embedded; it's an option chosen by the designer.

To embed a font using MS Word 97-2003, Go to Tools in the Menu Bar, then select Options... When the Options dialog box appears, select the Save Tab. and put a check in the box next to 'Embed True Type Fonts', (it also works for .otfs). When that box is checked, the box below, ('Embed characters in use only'), will be enabled - put a check in that box as well. Click the OK button to confirm the change and close the dialog box, save the document, and the font will be embedded, (provided that embedding is allowed; you need to have a font editing app installed to view the embedding restrictions).

In MS Word 2007, look in the Title Bar for a short line above a downward pointing arrow - it should be the first icon to the left of the name of your document. Click the down arrow, and select 'More Commands' from the menu to open the Word Options dialog box. Click on the Save topic in the panel on the left, and you'll see the embedding commands as the third item in the main portion of the Window. If you haven't used the Word Options dialog box before, it's worth your time to check the other topics, and perhaps fine tune some settings for individual docs or permanent use. For permanent changes, have only one Window of Word open, make the changes, then close Word. Your changes should be remembered by Word the next time you open it, (embedding is done on a document by document basis, when applicable).

I usually open Word 2000 when I want to embed, because I keep forgetting how to enable the Word Options d.b. in 2007.

Unfortunately, I can't help you with any conflicts arising from the use of Myndraine in your PSP files. Saving them with a different font in use would probably fix any problem, unless you had previously used embedding of a deleted font in your PSPs.

Good luck.

~bito

I wonder if you might have a saved document that used the .ttf version of Myndraine, or if you have both the .ttf and the .otf installed at the same time. That can happen, if neither the font names nor the file names are identical, (note that the file names are MYNDRAIN.TTF and Myndraine.otf in the .zip. The DemiBold vs. Medium weight disparity ♦might♦ be considered a different font name).

I installed only the .otf, and the text sample in my previous post was made with MS Word 2007 copy/pasted into MS Paint. I'm using Windows XP, the same as you. If we rule out the possibility that your Word and/or Operating System are compromised, I can't see any reason why the .otf should work fine for me, but not for you. I don't use Paint Shop Pro, so I can't help you with conflicts with that.

I used to have similar problems when I deleted a font that I had embedded in a Word doc or .pdf. Doing that corrupted all copies of the file with the same font name, (but not necessarily the same file name), including copies in unopened .zips. No glyphs would appear when the font was opened in preview, and the text display in the embedded doc would change to fixed sys. I had to delete and recycle every affected copy of the font, and also all documents in which the font had been saved, before I could generate a working version again. The solution to this problem is: When making a font, give different file names and different font names to each successive version, ie:XXXbeta013, 014, etc, and only generate the font with its correct name for the final version, after all changes have been made. That way, you can have multiple versions of a font installed at the same time, and you uninstall them after subsequent improvements make prior versions obsolete.

~bito

I love mystery problems like this, ellenelle.

I think you should uninstall the .ttf version, and install the .otf.

I checked the Font Info with Studio5, and the weight is set at Demibold for the .ttf, and Medium for the Open Type and Type 1 fonts, also included in the download .zip. That's probably what's causing your problems with the Bold formatting. The .ttf also has embedding restrictions not found in the other two versions, ["Only Printing and Previewing is allowed (read only)"].

I installed the .otf, and had no problem using the regular and bold weights:



~bobistheowl

Is that Le Monde Titre by Jean-François Porchez of PTF, (Porchez TypoFonderie)? Je pense que Instanz est Jean-François, lui-même!

Just my opinions on this...

There's a picture of YouTube next to the dictionary definition of "public media", but the font author probably was thinking of Twitter and Facebook.

If you were going to benefit financially from the YouTube upload, I would consider this to be commercial use, but you have stated that this is not the case. Your intent to include end credits, acknowledging your photo, clip art, music and font usages should be enough for the font author to extend permission to you, but that's his/her decision, not mine.

You seem to be a consummately honest person; most would just use the font, and cross their fingers that the font author never finds out. Keep in mind that most font designers don't check for private messages nor font comments on a daily basis, but they are more likely to respond promptly to an e-mail.

moltres_rider, that Pokemon font from DeviantArt has an .fon file type, (ie: it is intended for use as a Microsoft System font. Your Memerox Label Design Studio probably can't import files of this type.

tamara0kiss, when fonts have terms or conditions attached to how they're used, that information is almost always included in a 'read me' document contained in the archive with the font files, or sometimes in the header information of the font, where it can be seen when the font is opened in preview.

'Free for personal use' usually means that a specified dollar amount must be paid as a licensing fee to the font designer or foundry, if you want to use it for a purpose in which you will earn money as a direct result of the use of the font. For example, using the font to design business cards, CD covers, T-shirts, etc, would be commercial use. Using the font for a school assignment would be personal use.

In many cases, the 'FFPU' version of the font may contain fewer character glyphs than the version sold with a commercial use license. In these cases, the 'FFPU' version is a 'demo', (ie: demonstration version), used as an advertisement for the 'full' version for which the purchase of a commercial use license is required.

'Shareware' fonts generally have a lower licensing fee, and they are the ones most likely to contain the commercial use terms within the font header. In most, but not all cases, shareware fonts are free for personal use, for things like a 'lost cat' poster, or other circumstances where you are not intending to make money by using the specific font in question.

'Donationware' fonts are free to use for personal or commercial use, but the designer requests that a sum of money, in an amount chosen by the user, be voluntarily paid to the designer him/herself, or to an entity suggested by the font author, (usually a charitable or non profit organization that the font author endorses). For example, User A chooses to donate 2 Euros. User B, a large corporation, chooses to donate $100 Euros. User C is a student with very little money, and elects to make no donation.

All sans serifs look alike to me. Then again, I'm tied for 4,377th place in Font Identification, with 1, so I know sfa about font recognition.

Pablo Impallari's Lobster http://www.dafont.com/lobster.font is such a good choice that it's being used by almost everyone these days. One of the Typodermic fonts by Ray Larabie, http://www.dafont.com/typodermic.d1705 might also suit your purposes. An image sample of text similar to what you want to do would be helpful for additional suggestions.

@theautumnrabbit: Most recently, submitted fonts that are approved for inclusion at Dafont usually appear within five days of the submission. Usually a batch of approved fonts are posted at the same time. Two or three years ago, it was not uncommon for there to be 4-5 weeks between posted batches. If your submission is approved, (and that will depend on the quality of your font), you will receive an e-mail from Dafont at the time the new batch is posted. If your font is not approved, you will receive no notification nor explanation.

Free one, similar

I'm not sure what the second font is, but the text is "Childish Gambino":



(invert the colours on an image when there isn't enough contrast between the text and the background).

@l9marebear: I'm not qualified to edudicate in Font Identification, but I wanted you to know that our cyber assistant in the moderators forum has flagged your post as suspicious. It's likely because of the image of a sports team logo. The Forum receives spam from people trying to sell bootleg clothing with copyrighted logos. Our assistant alerts us of things like that. He does a great job, but when in doubt, he errs on the side of caution.


In the unlikely even that your post is accidentally deleted by another mod, the time was Dec 06, 2012 at 23:48 :56

~bito

@fhersh26: There are a number of font editing softwares that can turn your images into a font.

The first question to ask yourself is "Are the source images monochromatic?", ie: entirely composed of black and white. Although there are some editors that can support grey scale, most do not.

Question 2: Do you plan to start making fonts, or do you just want to make THIS font? If you're not sure, koeiekat has mentioned that FontCreator has a 30 day free trial version, so you could look into that. My browser's slow tonight, so I don't have time to find the link.

Font Making involves these steps:

1) Create source graphics. These might be bitmap, .tiff, ai file types, and perhaps some others, depending on the editor being used. The graphics can also be drawn in the font editor, but that requires a lot of skill and experience to do well.

2) Open your font editor, and create a new project file. Enter the 'Font Info' information like font name, family name, etc, the copyright screen, and the version/identification portion, at minimum. I name this font (FontName)beta1, because I know the first test version will not be the one I release.

3) Import your source graphics into the editor. How you do that will depend on the editor you're using, but it's probably some variation of File ->Image ->Open ->Select ->OK. I use monochrome bitmap source graphics. All of your source graphics should have a uniform height

4) Assign Properties to the imported image, ie: Which keyboard stroke will this image represent? The only reason why an M looks like an M in every alphabet font is because the font maker assigned the M position to the image he wanted to have for M.

I draw small black boxes in the corners of the images that will be imported, to specify the frame size I want to use, (not all letters/ characters go all the way to the top or bottom), and I use boxes on the edges that correspond to the base line for letters, if I'm doing an alphabet font. After using these boxes for their purpose, they are erased. I use ScanFont 3, as do about half a dozen other people, and I find it much easier to make these line adjustments after importing the image, but before saving the project file with the new image added.

5) Modify the image: If you're importing the images, don't necessarily expect that they'll be finished inside the editor. The edges may be rough, if your source graphics were not clean enough. Where you wanted a circle, you have a "tinker toy", a roughly round shape composed of a lot of short straight lines and some curved ones. The tools that can be displayed for editing the imported image will vary significantly from editor to editor, and since ScanFont 3 is no longer sold, my available tools and procedures will be different from yours.

6) Save your font frequently, even as often as any positive change. If I'm about to start some editing that I might want to reverse, I'll save the font with a new name, and if I like the changes, I'll never return to the previous version, and it will be recycled. If I don't like the changes, I recycle the current version, and reopen the previous one. ALWAYS save the last version BEFORE you rename it and save again, so you don't lose improvements made in one version, but saved only in a version later deleted. Saving each version with a different sequential name also allows you to have multiple versions of the font-in-progress installed at the same time, so you can type the letter, than compare the display in the current version to the one from which it was modified, to see if it is completed, improved but not completely, or if you've made it worse.

7) Generate a test font: Your first test will disappoint you. What you though was done has only been started. Look at your font at a variety of different point sizes, especially the lowest point sizes that you hope will be useful, (ie: you wouldn't expect to use a fancy script at 10 points. Does it look OK at 36 points?). Very tiny errors in your font editor, (like a line that's almost exactly straight, but not quite), can appear to be huge errors when seen at very small point sizes, even though you might have to enlarge the image in the editor by 20 times to even notice the mistake. Create and save a new version after each generated font, prior to the release version.

Keep repeating 5) and 6) until you're satisfied with the results. Only a few designers are proud of the first font they made, and almost all of them were already skilled in fields related to typography.

8) Make fonts because you want to, not because you hope or expect to make money doing it. Ninety-nine out of a hundred fonts these days seem to be "Free For Personal Use". While there are a few designers who have made profits through FFPU, the vast majority have not earned enough to recover what they paid for their editing software. Make some money at it if you can, but don't expect to. If making fonts was an hourly paid job, the salary would be well below minimum wage.

~bito

koeiekat, in the thread missing...! in the English forum: http://www.dafont.com/forum/read/73739/missing, you advised coletteinvancouver of problems with the ascenders and descenders in Quilted Butterfly, Rat Infested Mailbox and Prophesy Script. Could you please provide some information about how to calculate the correct values of these vertical metrics, (in layman's vernacular, please!).

I use ScanFont 3, and I know where to find the ascender/ descender values, and I know I can have the program recalculate them, but I don't know what the numbers mean.

Many would be enriched if you would share a small part of your vast technical knowledge, and that disseminated knowledge may lead to better quality uploads to Dafont.

Thanks,

~bito

@8kids4us: You should know that ♦everyone♦ who has replied to you in this thread is a forum moderator. Remember that, and think first before deciding whom you should call a dick, unless you have a dynamic IP address.

If you had opened the font in preview before using it, you would have been able to tell that the letters are very small at lower point sizes. That's probably because Jellyka wanted it that way. She knows a thing or two about making fonts. Usually handwriting fonts are of dubious use at small point sizes, because people don't usually write in tiny script, except for teenage girls with issues.

@ Looneytunerian: The fact that the letters e, n, r, s, and t in 'Present' and 'Presents' are different should be a pretty good indicator that custom lettering, rather than a font, was used. Your sample letters should be about three times as large, and monochromatic, to be of use to someone who wants to invest 50+ hours of their time in exchange for your undying gratitude.