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Nov 28, 2012 at 01:09

koeiekat, in the thread missing...! in the English forum:, you advised coletteinvancouver of problems with the ascenders and descenders in Quilted Butterfly, Rat Infested Mailbox and Prophesy Script. Could you please provide some information about how to calculate the correct values of these vertical metrics, (in layman's vernacular, please!).

I use ScanFont 3, and I know where to find the ascender/ descender values, and I know I can have the program recalculate them, but I don't know what the numbers mean.

Many would be enriched if you would share a small part of your vast technical knowledge, and that disseminated knowledge may lead to better quality uploads to Dafont.



Nov 28, 2012 at 03:22

Nov 29, 2012 at 21:42

Late, I know, sorry for that. After the explanation given in the Typophile thread are there still questions unanswered?

Dec 15, 2012 at 18:09

Can Unicode glyphs be created with the keyboard, instead of using the Character Map, (Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> Character Map, or C:\Windows\System32\charmap.exe)?

For example, If I want to make the copyright symbol glyph, I can select it in the Character Map, copy it from the CM clipboard, and past it into a document.

The code is U+00A9. 00A9 is probably a hexadecimal number. How would the U+00A9 be input on the keyboard to create this symbol?



Dec 15, 2012 at 18:40

Hold the left Alt key and on the numeric keypad type 0169. Result:

Google ascii high codes

Dec 15, 2012 at 22:37

If you would like to have easy access to the high ASCII characters like , , etc get AllChars.

Dec 16, 2012 at 01:33

Thanks, kat. I found the chart at

to be very useful. I have a document with the codes for Alt + 1 through Alt +255, but not for the codes that begin with zero. In MS Word 2000, the codes repeat in sequence after Alt +256, (ie: Alt +3 and Alt + 259 produce the same symbol), but there is an additional range available in Word 2007 that I haven't explored yet.

My handy document, with codes for Alt + 1 - 255: (Downloadable .pdf, [117 kb], that can also be accessed online).

I was reading another page with Unicode character display instructions:

but I shied away when they started talking about changing registry keys. I had to recycle an operating system once after changing HKEYs with a less than complete understanding of what I was doing. I think I'll stick to using the Character Map for anything beyond the high ASCII range.


Dec 16, 2012 at 09:17

You looked at the wrong table on that page. You need the one on the right, ANSI/ISO Latin-1/ANSI Extended ASCII.

Dec 16, 2012 at 10:33

koeiekat said  
You looked at the wrong table on that page. You need the one on the right, ANSI/ISO Latin-1/ANSI Extended ASCII.

No, I didn't. I looked at both tables. I'm very familiar with the one on the left; it's reproduced in the .pdf link in my previous post. I've never seen the chart on the right before.

I just chose the symbol as an example; I wanted to know how to translate the codes shown in the Character Map to the keyboard, not to just know the ANSI code for the copyright.

A better example, perhaps: The Arabic Five Pointed Star, [img] [/img] has code U+066D using the Tahoma font. (there are eight points on the star, but "Arabic Five Pointed Star" is the name of the glyph). I inserted an image, because the symbol cannot be reproduced in Forum text. I can put that glyph in a document by opening the Character Map, selecting Tahoma, selecting the glyph, copying it from the CM clipboard, and pasting it into the document. Can I do the same thing, using only my keyboard? I haven't installed the AllChars .msi app yet, but it would serve the same sort of function as the CM.

What I don't know is how the U+066D code translates to the keyboard, if at all. The U likely stands for Unicode, and 066D is a hexadecimal number equal to 468 in decimal, (6*6*13). I want to know how to use that information on my keyboard. It's the same question I asked in post #4 of the thread, I'm just using a glyph that's not in the Extended ASCII range as my example.



Dec 16, 2012 at 11:14

The Arabic Five Pointed Star has ASCII code 1645 but will only show in fonts that support Arabic.

On AllChars, no it does not do the same thing as copying from the charmap. What it does is, after typing the Ctrl key, make the first key you type a deadkey and then combines that with the second key you type. Read the manual.

Edited on Dec 16, 2012 at 11:27 by koeiekat

Dec 16, 2012 at 12:39

Thanks, kat, that MainType looks interesting. I'll install the V4 from FileFlyer and check it out.

Dec 16, 2012 at 13:42

Why from FileFlyer and not from High-Logic?

Dec 16, 2012 at 19:18

koeiekat said  
Why from FileFlyer and not from High-Logic?

Because the one on FileFlyer has a patch, so it only costs 11 MB of disk space and bandwidth.

Dec 16, 2012 at 20:51

The file on High-Logic is smaller but, yes, no patch included.

Edited on Dec 16, 2012 at 21:01 by koeiekat

Dec 16, 2012 at 22:12

Dec 16, 2012 at 22:29

@Claude: I can do that with the Character Map, as well. Is there someway to input the U+066D code, using only my keyboard?

Dec 16, 2012 at 23:22

Didn't I mumble something about ASCII 1645

Dec 16, 2012 at 23:34

metaphasebrothel said  
@Claude: I can do that with the Character Map, as well. Is there someway to input the U+066D code, using only my keyboard?

ALT + 1645

HTML = ٭

Modifie le clavier

Dec 17, 2012 at 00:00

Dec 17, 2012 at 00:12

koeiekat said  
Didn't I mumble something about ASCII 1645

Yes, I know the codes for the copyright and Five Pointed Arabic Star from earlier in the thread. What I want to know is the correlation between the U+066D and the ASCII 1645. In other words, can I use U+066D to calculate the 1645, using only the keyboard, and possibly the calculator, but no other specialty app? It's like I'm asking you to teach me how to fish, and you give me a fish, which feeds me for tonight, but leaves me hungry again tomorrow.

If the code is U+221E, for example, can you determine the ASCII code without additional information, or do you need to know the font and glyph first, before you can do that?

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