Impact Label. I think the comma is being used as the apostrophe.

I think the "most similar" would be the $ and # in Beauty Marks

@Claude: My calculator is different than yours, as shown in the graphic, (I don't have Hex/Decimal/Binary conversion). Could you tell me the exact file name of the app, and I'll try to download it from somewhere? If it's a standard Windows app, would it be installed into C:\Windows\system32, or in Program Files?

Thanks.

(Written between posts 21 & 22)

So I can't mathematically calculate an ASCII code by using a U+???? code. That's what I wanted to know. I thought there might be a more efficient way to add specialized symbols than copy/pasting selected glyphs from the Character Map, which is actually faster than consulting a table, and inputting the glyph using the Alt Key and number pad. I'm not so much concerned with learning the codes for individual symbols, I just wanted to know the mathematical relationship, if any, between the ASCII and Unicode designations.

I can see that knowing the code would be very important if one intends to include one of the Unicode glyphs in a font under construction.

In this case, I'm guilty of overestimating the kat's technical knowledge, and his abilities to both read and convey instruction. For that, I apologize.

Yes, I know the codes for the copyright and Five Pointed Arabic Star from earlier in the thread. What I want to know is the correlation between the U+066D and the ASCII 1645. In other words, can I use U+066D to calculate the 1645, using only the keyboard, and possibly the calculator, but no other specialty app? It's like I'm asking you to teach me how to fish, and you give me a fish, which feeds me for tonight, but leaves me hungry again tomorrow.

If the code is U+221E, for example, can you determine the ASCII code without additional information, or do you need to know the font and glyph first, before you can do that?

@Claude: I can do that with the Character Map, as well. Is there someway to input the U+066D code, using only my keyboard?

merci, Claude.

Because the one on FileFlyer has a patch, so it only costs 11 MB of disk space and bandwidth.

Thanks, kat, that MainType looks interesting. I'll install the V4 from FileFlyer and check it out.

No, I didn't. I looked at both tables. I'm very familiar with the one on the left; it's reproduced in the .pdf link in my previous post. I've never seen the chart on the right before.

I just chose the © symbol as an example; I wanted to know how to translate the codes shown in the Character Map to the keyboard, not to just know the ANSI code for the copyright.

A better example, perhaps: The Arabic Five Pointed Star, [img]http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/5805/24251878.png [/img] has code U+066D using the Tahoma font. (there are eight points on the star, but "Arabic Five Pointed Star" is the name of the glyph). I inserted an image, because the symbol cannot be reproduced in Forum text. I can put that glyph in a document by opening the Character Map, selecting Tahoma, selecting the glyph, copying it from the CM clipboard, and pasting it into the document. Can I do the same thing, using only my keyboard? I haven't installed the AllChars .msi app yet, but it would serve the same sort of function as the CM.

What I don't know is how the U+066D code translates to the keyboard, if at all. The U likely stands for Unicode, and 066D is a hexadecimal number equal to 468 in decimal, (6*6*13). I want to know how to use that information on my keyboard. It's the same question I asked in post #4 of the thread, I'm just using a glyph that's not in the Extended ASCII range as my example.

Thanks,

~bito

@ the experts:

For the Basic Latin character set, is there any significant difference between the LinoType Buxom and BuxomD from URW? How about Buxom EF, from Elsner + Flake? I would expect minimal originality in that one. I have Buxom EF, but only in MAC, so I can't check it out on my PC. The Nick's Fonts version has a lot of Romanian and Moldavian accented characters that I would never use. I have a lot of URW fonts, but I know nothing of their reputation.

Thanks,

~bito

You could always use a font designated as Free, in which case, permission for both personal and commercial use has already been granted, in advance.

~bito

Thanks, kat. I found the chart at

http://www.irongeek.com/alt-numpad-ascii-key-combos-and-chart.html

to be very useful. I have a document with the codes for Alt + 1 through Alt +255, but not for the codes that begin with zero. In MS Word 2000, the codes repeat in sequence after Alt +256, (ie: Alt +3 and Alt + 259 produce the same symbol), but there is an additional range available in Word 2007 that I haven't explored yet.

My handy document, with codes for Alt + 1 - 255: http://ge.tt/3xbaLdT/v/0 (Downloadable .pdf, [117 kb], that can also be accessed online).

I was reading another page with Unicode character display instructions:

http://www.fileformat.info/tip/microsoft/enter_unicode.htm

but I shied away when they started talking about changing registry keys. I had to recycle an operating system once after changing HKEYs with a less than complete understanding of what I was doing. I think I'll stick to using the Character Map for anything beyond the high ASCII range.

~bito

Can Unicode glyphs be created with the keyboard, instead of using the Character Map, (Start -> Programs -> Accessories -> System Tools -> Character Map, or C:\Windows\System32\charmap.exe)?

For example, If I want to make the copyright symbol glyph, I can select it in the Character Map, copy it from the CM clipboard, and past it into a document.

The code is U+00A9. 00A9 is probably a hexadecimal number. How would the U+00A9 be input on the keyboard to create this symbol?

Thanks,

~bito

The Nirvana font is a knockoff of Onyx. The guy who made the Nirvana font left Onyx in the Full Name field in the Font Info.

@koeiekat: There should not be a "to" between "not" and "make" in the third line of ML Sunglow KK.

In the Obese & Square KK text, you should have a comma after "knick-knacks", rather than a period, and the U in "usable" should not be capitalized. The S is mud at the point size displayed, virtually indistinguishable from the O.

I have a lot of trouble determining exactly what you are saying in the Monogram KK text. I think it's
"Like this one
Which ????? has brought around two thousand
dollars in donations to animal shelters"

If the ????? delivered other people's donations to the animal shelters, the phrasing would be correct. If, however, the ????? donated their own money, It should read "Which ????? has donated around two thousand dollars to animal shelters?".

The two new ones in progress look interesting. It seems like the point size chosen for use in your graphic does not fully exploit the virtues of a few of the others.

~bito

Thanks for the links, Claude. I don't have to worry, because people only use my fonts to fill empty disk space.

@Claude: Fox is spelled with an O in English. You can see it in every preview, unless you're looking at dingbats. I lie. Fonts made with Scanfont 3 use the Jackdaws panagram.

Dion.H, if you haven't installed a font yet, you can just right-click -> rename the file. If you want to rename fonts that have already been installed, that's trickier, but not impossible. NEVER rename a font in your installed fonts folder, it will be corrupted in the process. What you can do is open a Search Window, and browse for the directory C:\Windows*\Fonts, (*or whatever the name is for your operating system folder), and don't specify any file name or type, just the search location. The results should list all of your installed fonts. For the ones you want to rename, copy the files from the search results, and paste them into another folder. Rename the files, delete the copies that are currently installed, then cut/paste the renamed versions back into your installed fonts folder to reinstall them.

There are a few fonts you can't change in this manner. Tahoma, with Windows XP, is the standard display font, so it can't be uninstalled even momentarily. I don't know if you have a different display font for Windows 7, but if you do, you wouldn't be able to change it, either. You also won't be able to rename Microsoft Sans Serif, or the font currently selected in Notepad. As far as I know, you should be able to rename any others.

Now, if what you want to do is change the font name, not the file name, that can also be done, but I'm not going to tell you how.

Dion H, font designers don't want to let you do this to their fonts. What you want to do has been abused many times in the past, where someone takes an existing font, changes only its name and the copyright information, then tries to pass it off as an original work, or recreation. When fonts have multiple weights, (bold, italic, bold italic, light, black, etc.), and were properly made, the font will appear only once in the installed fonts list for the app you're using, and the non Regular weights are accessed through the formatting tools. So, the answer to the question 'is there a freeware app that does this kind of renaming in a batch?' is No, it's a complex process in which each font would have to be renamed separately, and other things would have to be done, as well. Other designers would have my head if I gave you instructions on how to do it. It would be like if a Magician told the public how card and disappearing coin tricks work. If you need to know how to do it, you'll already know how.