@drblog Totally agree with the vertically flipped W idea. It's definitely a version of Helvetica/Neue Haas Grotesk/Helvetica Neue/etc...
Helvetica has been available since 1957. This logo was introduced in 1968. Arial didn't reach the scene until 1982 and it's only similar due to being based on Helvetica's design principles.
Should also keep in mind that graphic designers frequently make minor adjustments/customizations for all sorts of aesthetic reasons and that finding a font that matches all these inconsistencies is like finding a needle in a haystack. It's far more logical and timely to conclude that Helvetica Bold/Black was modified.
Either Serpentine Light or Serpentine Sans ICG Light. Hard to tell at such size.
Edited on Sep 18, 2014 at 18:40 by conman1985
Custom logotype/typeface based on Handel Gothic Bold.
Model numbers in Handel Gothic (clearly reinforcing the notion of custom modification):
Similar style (read - not exact):
Gayatri
http://bigyellowbiohazard.deviantart.com/art/Gayatri-134611015
Watford/Zarana/OPTI Zara
http://www.abstractfonts.com/font/12002
Corporate URW/ParaType Mania
https://www.myfonts.com/fonts/urw/corporate-urw/
http://www.paratype.com/pstore/default.asp?search=Mania
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@koeiekat Have you ever used a camcorder/VCR? Pretty much every one of them uses the same standard OSD bitmap typeface. It only looks smooth because it is magnified using interpolation to 3 or 4 times its original size and then recorded onto analog tape. Sometimes analog tapes are copied onto other analog tapes adding to further image degradation. As for the outline, Photoshop stroke/drop shadow would suffice. If not, see Camcorder Font Family below.
For a more complete package, including a outline, please check here:
http://badmeangood.com/CAMCORDER_FONT_FAMILY/ This is likely a custom logotype designed for the film. Allan Cameron was the production designer, if that helps at all.
It doesn't match anything I could find. You could get away with using Gill Sans Std Bold as a substitute.
"BOAT COUNTRY" is Crillee Italic (Letraset - 1980)
Sui Generis Heavy Italic (Typodermic Fonts/Ray Larabie - 2000)
My goodness. Lighten up. I'm simply here to help identify typefaces/designers.
The only person who is going to be able to answer your questions properly is original designer, Roc Mitchell. If we ever manage to obtain the 1970's phototype negative film strips or the official 1999 digitization, we'd be able to see what was intended/included.
I informed you of phototype smoothing/soft-focus as it is a genuine issue that can lead to curved edges in typefaces which do not necessarily have them. Keep in mind that each character is exposed individually and not as a complete word or title layout. Final layout and composition was handled after in the paste-up process.
Also, stop thinking in variables of 2. In the Limited View sample sheet alone there are 3 versions of the J and L. We don't know if this sample is a complete character set - there could have been multiple versions of every character. Plus, there could have been multiple weights/styles for different use that we do not have samples of. In that regard, why can't there be an A with rounded corners at the crossbar, an A with right angles at the crossbar, and another A with a stenciled crossbar?
If the OP was going to use OPTI Limited View and insert characters (F,R,D, etc...) from Eurostile/Microgramma then I suggested slight height adjustments and softening some inner corners so that they do not look out of place aesthetically with the rest of the characters.
Example typeset:

Edited on Sep 11, 2014 at 13:13 by conman1985
Softer corners are common in phototypesetting when the focus is slightly out of alignment. The sharper the focus, the sharper the edges. In some ways phototype is similar to letterpress in that you do not get a 100% accurate reproduction every time. Variations in light and focus, even the quality of the film the phototype is developed on, all add to the analog charm. Watch some 1970's/1980's films with optical titles and you'll see this effect every so often. Whether or not you wish to replicate these softer edges is up to you - though I would say the sample/specimen in Dan X. Solo's "Sans Serif Display Alphabets" is the most accurate. Other samples are just for determining date of creation - which I would estimate is between 1970 and 1972.
Phototype smoothing example - Mircrogramma Bold/Eurostile Extended Bold:
Ad from PC Mag - July 1983

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Customized Venus Rising (Typodermic Fonts / Ray Larabie)
Customized Cornered (Checkmate pre-digital).
Customized Crillee Bold Italic (Peter O'Donnell / Letraset Type Studio - 1980)
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