any ideas

Ancestory SF  Sugerida por Red/Black86 

Which one?

Japan please.

found it but it needs some heavy editing ancestory sf is the name of it

all i need now is help with the other font :-)

The other want could be a BADLY vectorized Arial.

Dafuq?!

ya i found it on the net its pretty brutal vectorization to be fair but i dont think its arial im thinking more along the lines of helvetica black or something like that