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Modificato su 03/09/2012 alle 23:25 da SashiX
LOL - as I stated "or it's another manufacturers." Sashi, even Bitstream gives Berthold credit for designing City. In the States, a judge once ruled that if a manufacturer copies a font and changes just three characters - it's a new font. That is why in the late 60s and 70s, when we switched to cold type -- the hot metal houses waited for Helvetica - the real deal - to come -- and the cold type manufacturers were putting together their own Helveticas (i.e. Alphatype's Claro.)
Now Bitstream came along and did not want to pay royalties. So they redrew every font and gave them all new names. There is a site that has most of the Bitstream fonts labeled as to what they were suppose to be.
So, you are right that the N came from them - but the typesetter in me needs to give the credit to the actual owner of the font.
Many times, I've given the name of a font, and then learned it was not the "original." Akira loves stepping on me over at myfonts, and I cannot begin to tell you how much more I learned from him over the years (of not having a typeshop anymore...)
I don't know about that R - it's like a Clarendon/Bodoni kind of a thing - but if you'd like something very similar (for all the other letters) you may want to consider Schadow Black Condense
http://www.myfonts.com/fonts/bitstream/schadow/
or Schadow Antiqua - which I can't seem to find - my fonts lists it - but the font they've put for it is TSI Romic. Go figure!
Modificato su 03/09/2012 alle 09:48 da drf_
Here's another suggestion:
http://www.fontspace.com/psyops/crash-numbering
Modificato su 03/09/2012 alle 09:47 da drf_
You are welcome.
Also Bitstream's Swiss 721 is the same...
might be regular weight - not sure.
Carattere Identificato: FF Max You are very welcome.
The E C and R do not match at all.
Agency Bold is closer (if you condense it slightly) - but the R doesn't match....
Using the alternatives - they have them in glyphs for the "s" and the "n"
That isn't necessarily the complete set of glyphs... for all I know there may be a "pro" font out there... somewhere... I saw those before... honest... it doesn't answer the question... lol
Perhaps they lopped it off - or heavied the Medium... or it's another manufacturers.
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