The 23 looks like some type of Garamond - that was stroked to make look heavier. Closest I've seen is the SoftMaker rip off.
It looks like someone took Plantain and decided to mess it up manually.
NOT THE FONT
Just a quick substitute, as it has the same "feel."
I could find an exact. But if you are just looking for something close, maybe this can help.
NOT THE FONT
NOT THE FONT - but similar in feel...
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Charlemagne matches the bottom one
Bold matches the top one.
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Letters appear to have been taken from Brush Up and Brush Up Too - using a mix of Upper and Lower Case
the "L" was modified - the rest is Avenir Light and Bold
aka Helvetica - that is a few generations removed from the original
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