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why is spacing poor at some pt sizes?

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Apr 23, 2014 at 18:23

What might cause a font to display onscreen with erratic spacing at different sizes (but normal when printing)? This happens typically at small sizes, but not always.

I'm not talking about poor resolution, just changes in spacing. Is there some way to fix a font that does something like this?

Thanks,
Ellen


Apr 23, 2014 at 18:32

As long as you are carefully hiding which font you are talking about you do not deserve an answer.


Apr 23, 2014 at 21:59

Wow, the moral authority has spoken.

Anyway, most of the fonts that come with Windows 7 that have LET after their names (foundry, Altsys) have this problem.


Apr 23, 2014 at 23:19

LET = Letraset ?


Apr 24, 2014 at 00:25

ellenelle said  
why is spacing poor at some pt sizes?

What might cause a font to display onscreen with erratic spacing at different sizes (but normal when printing)? This happens typically at small sizes, but not always.

I'm not talking about poor resolution, just changes in spacing. Is there some way to fix a font that does something like this?

Thanks,
Ellen

If you are using Photoshop, you can use character spacing. This option lets you adjust each character vertical and horizontal to your liking! I am not sure if Microsoft products offer this option.


Also, I would not use that option if it's printing fine. If you adjust it when it's printing normal, it might print adnormal. It's most likely the program you are using or a view issue. Try viewing at 100% to see if the spacing is still off.


If the problem still persist, You can find the character options in 'Window' in the file menu in Photoshop. And then revert the changes before you print, this will enable you to get a view with your desired spacing. It sounds like twice the work, though! hehe

Edited 2 times. Last edit on Apr 24, 2014 at 00:37 by gwizsk


Apr 24, 2014 at 00:43

ellenelle said  
Wow, the moral authority has spoken...

Don't take it personally, ellenelle. That's how he flirts.

Edited on Apr 24, 2014 at 00:44 by metaphasebrothel


Apr 24, 2014 at 00:56

metaphasebrothel said  
ellenelle said  
Wow, the moral authority has spoken...

Don't take it personally, ellenelle. That's how he flirts.

No. He is just arrogant. If that's the case and he was flirting with me, my bad. I accept. lmao


Apr 24, 2014 at 00:56

Nope Owl. As long as we don't know what she is talking about how can we possibly try to reproduce the error?


Apr 24, 2014 at 00:59

koeiekat said  
Nope Owl. As long as we don't know what she is talking about how can we possibly try to reproduce the error?

She stated the error: when she is viewing it on the computer screen the spacing of the font is off versus when she prints it. It prints normal.


Apr 24, 2014 at 01:01

The ice is thin


Apr 24, 2014 at 01:03

The point she was making that you come off very rude. She just had an issue, and you do not have to attack everyone that asks for help. It like you're coming as some dude thats think "why dont you know that!" If that's the way you think, why attack her and instead answer the question?

Who says you do not deserve an answer to someone? What are you some answer God that needs the perfect question? How have people on this forum put up with you so long?

Edited 2 times. Last edit on Apr 24, 2014 at 01:14 by gwizsk


Apr 24, 2014 at 01:22

ellenelle never said with which font-file the problem occurred, did she? So, cloner, think.


Apr 24, 2014 at 01:23

@ roro
See?


Apr 24, 2014 at 01:30

wow man, you do not get it. she gave us a font family she thought. maybe it was not up to standards of what you need (mmhmm). but, what you are not realizing you are rude. you could have simply asked : can you be more specific and tell me what font exactly you were using? you say: "you do not deserve an answer"? EVEN SHE HAD A PROBLEM WITH YOUR RESPONSE

Edited on Apr 24, 2014 at 01:31 by gwizsk


Apr 24, 2014 at 01:32

you get what you serve, brotherman. you can cry to roro all you want about people being rude to you when you're rude to them. I will keep coming back.


Apr 24, 2014 at 01:35

metaphasebrothel said  
ellenelle said  
Wow, the moral authority has spoken...

Don't take it personally, ellenelle. That's how he flirts.

Obvious that this is an issue.


Apr 24, 2014 at 18:40

I appreciate the discussion. Now back to my question:

From now on, I will be more specific, for everyone's sake. To reveal my very trivial concerns, I like to substitute fonts in the registry for MS Shell Dlg and MS Shell Dlg 2, which are used in most system dialog boxes at 9 pt, and you can't change the size, you can only change the font. I do this for reasons of aesthetics and legibility – the latter because it is difficult for me to read at a very small pt size. If you substitute a font that shows larger than the default at 9 pt, you get a more legible dialog box.

So for this purpose, I'm concerned only with the way the font appears on the screen. I look for fonts that look relatively large at 9 pt. But at that size, some fonts display weirdness in spacing, like the ones I mentioned. Other fonts display inconsistency in the sizing; an example of this would be Moderna Unicase Medium (free at MyFonts).

This is for my own personal use, so I'd like to know if there is some way I can tinker with fonts that have this problem so that I might improve the look of things on screen. I use TypeTool and am fairly inexperienced, but I am learning.


Apr 24, 2014 at 19:46



Apr 24, 2014 at 20:53

Hinting.


Apr 25, 2014 at 16:54

Not easily fixed, then. But is hinting responsible for the spacing issue? It seems to be different. Take a look at at the fonts I mentioned, for example, University Roman LET; the spacing is way off even when the letters themselves are acceptable, all the way to 14 pt.



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