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Mar 06, 2014 at 17:16

First of all - I have literally no idea what I am doing.

A PC Game I have played went open souce a few years ago and I was hoping to use the font they used in the game for projects related to that game (videos and such) but as I said, no idea where to start.

I have 5 TGA Files and 4 DAT Files - is there a way to somehow create a working font file to use with Photoshop?

the files: http://www.sendspace.com/file/kxwdly
heres a screenshot of the font in action! http://s30.postimg.org/90q3kajc1/shot0000.png
also a link to the open source files about the font: https://github.com/id-Software/RTCW-MP/blob/master/src/renderer/tr_font.c

any help would be greatly appreciated!

Edited 2 times. Last edit on Mar 06, 2014 at 20:29 by M+R


Mar 07, 2014 at 00:53

Yo,
quite a small image for an identification, but it seems to be one of the fonts from this family : http://myfonts.us/td-i85bse


Mar 07, 2014 at 09:45

If it's an open source game, why don't you look in the code to know the name of the font used ?


Mar 07, 2014 at 10:52

Menhir said  
If it's an open source game, why don't you look in the code to know the name of the font used ?

I linked to the description about the font from the open source - I have no idea how to get the actual font, I think I found some glyph files (which I also linked) but they aren't the same font at all.

snippit from the open source:

// What we did was pre-render the fonts using FreeType ( which is why we leave the FreeType
// credit in the credits ) and then saved off the glyph data and then hand touched up the
// font bitmaps so they scale a bit better in GL.


Mar 07, 2014 at 10:56

daaams said  
Yo,
quite a small image for an identification, but it seems to be one of the fonts from this family : http://myfonts.us/td-i85bse

yup, but I don't need indentification - I know it's not a released font :( it looks a lot like an edited version of Arial Black and is monospaced (monospaced is very important for what I need it for, if you see the linked image I basically will reproduce sections like this.)

I attempted to reproduce this by screenshotting the text in game and recreating it with some free online font production - but the quality is destroyed in the process and the outcome has not been great (also monospace isn't possible on these sites and that is like I mentioned probably the most important factor)

attempted reproduction: http://s8.postimg.org/jqp967i90/RTCW_FONT_TEST1.jpg


Mar 07, 2014 at 11:19

maybe they monospaced it, but it's Copperplate Gothic (see my link), definitely not Arial (!!!)
So the font you're trying to recreate already exists as a commercial font (except the monospace style).

very weird on an open source project.

Edited on Mar 07, 2014 at 11:21 by marty666


Mar 07, 2014 at 14:28

daaams said  
maybe they monospaced it, but it's Copperplate Gothic (see my link), definitely not Arial (!!!)
So the font you're trying to recreate already exists as a commercial font (except the monospace style).

very weird on an open source project.

It wasn't open source to being with, they made it open source 10 years after release.


Mar 07, 2014 at 15:05

ok thanks for the explanations.
did you check all the fonts in the Copperplate Gothic family ?
one of them is what you're looking for


Mar 07, 2014 at 15:23

I looked around, I could only really find Serif fonts - except: http://www.fonthaus.com/fonts/sweetfonts/sweet-gothic/sw10105

They are all close, but I guess this is where their small edits made the difference (and monospace, I've not found a monospace version yet)


Mar 07, 2014 at 15:38

The one you want is Image Line's FontFever26. An extended Copperplate lookalike. Fontasia also made one that is very much like your sample, the FZ Roman 14 EX.


Mar 07, 2014 at 15:44



Mar 07, 2014 at 16:12

M+R said  
I looked around, I could only really find Serif fonts

on your image you have serifs too
==> http://s8.postimg.org/jqp967i90/RTCW_FONT_TEST1.jpg


Mar 07, 2014 at 17:00

yup but I basically overlayed game screenshots onto that, and had to resize drastically - if you check this one: http://s30.postimg.org/90q3kajc1/shot0000.png its how it should look. (I know it's small :P)


Mar 07, 2014 at 17:01

yeah, and i can still see the serifs


Mar 07, 2014 at 18:03


tested that and its amazingly close, so much so that it is hard to tell the difference. Main things are the punctuation marks but my self made replica font can cover those, the characters are much more pristine here and pretty much like for like (only the M and Q have small differences).

I guess no matter what though will always have the problem of no monospace which is fairly important ;]


Mar 07, 2014 at 18:54



Mar 07, 2014 at 21:11

It is the R that determines a match. Perfect or close. In your sample image, M+R, there are no punctuation marks so tell me ... how can I match against those.
If you want a match for each and every glyph the show a sample with each and every glyph. And preferably at a larger size than a shrunk atom.

@the brothel: Yellow!!


Mar 08, 2014 at 01:31

koeiekat said  
It is the R that determines a match. Perfect or close. In your sample image, M+R, there are no punctuation marks so tell me ... how can I match against those.
If you want a match for each and every glyph the show a sample with each and every glyph. And preferably at a larger size than a shrunk atom.

@the brothel: Yellow!!

I linked an attempted recreation where I had blown up each character/punctuation mark but the quality was pretty awful as they all started from the atom like images you mention.

This is as good as I could get it in terms of how easy to see/size. The centre text is as big as it gets but can be a lot harder to see - I noticed that the apostrophe, lessthan/morethan, question mark and colon are all slightly oddshaped or misplaced. (image also gives more characters etc just from the loading section)

http://s27.postimg.org/f450idg0h/0000000039.png


Mar 08, 2014 at 05:28

After a few tests, copper plate seems the closest, but the lack of monospace urks me! :P Is there a way to make a font monospaced? I think if I could make Copperplate Bold monospaced it would take a lot to top it.


Mar 08, 2014 at 10:03

For that M+R you need a font editor. First set your widest glyph left position to zero. Then set a fixed advance width that is at least the same as the width of your widest glyph. Finish by centering the glyphs between left and right bearings.

This is the result for FontFever26-Ext. Widest glyph is the W, 1201 emm. I have changed that to 1200, nice even number. Fixed width set at 1200, moved all glyphs to center in between bearings.




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