We are all agreed!

Thank you. About time you recognized that!

Found it.

Definitely a dingbat - I use to use it on open chapters - the font has one in the other direction - just for that purpose...

Kat - that is a dingbat - it might be from Woodtype Ornaments - but I'm not sure. One of the old ornament fonts definitely... which - ??? LOL Maybe Garamond? With the new Mac I just can't see the fonts like I use to.

Don't know this one - but you can modify Hairline for a match up.

Lo que dije fue la M no fue Avant Garde. El M parece ser Century Gothic. El resto es de Avant Garde. Espero que lo aclare. Traducir no es mi fuerte.

Train not to care? oh non, ce n'est pas ce que nous voulons accomplir

and thank you Fred - you once gave me that saying when it came to a certain slimy Frenchman... (who by the way, ended up in the hospital - and will never be the same... what goes around... comes around, or vice versa.)

Keep Calm is too heavy for LITTLE MIX
and it does not match the other type - look at the "M" please.

Bravo - you do know how to tell the difference!

I can only recommend a close substitute - sorry, I don't know the original.

Et juste au cas où quelqu'un ne veut connaître le nom de l'autre police - il est Avenir.

LITTLE MIX I think is this

The letters are close to Franklin Gothic - with the A modified. Just a thought...

You are welcome. Not rough - but the letter formations are pretty common - so one has to look for the uncommon letters - I personallyl love capital Rs and Qs.

Oh Fred - you saved that link - thank you. Haven't seen it in a very long time. I have my own problems telling those two apart!

malvolio - the c is different in both. The c above matches the Arial family.

House Industries put out a disk years ago with House Gothic Light with Alternative Caps - I think that is what you are looking for.