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Posts by metaphasebrothel

@Twiddle & koeiekat: I tried, (unsuccessfully), to make the change indicated in post #5, to generate a 'corrected' version, using Fontlab Studio5. Changing the ascender/ descender values in Font Info -> Metrics and Dimensions -> True Type-specific metrics was easy to do, but the current values returned when I generated the .ttf file, (and yes, the 'set custom value' and 'calculate values automatically' buttons were properly enabled when I did this).

Note in the graphic from post #5: On the left, the values for Win Ascent and Win Descent, (1070; -932), are different from the values for Ascender and Descender, (750; -250). koeiekat's suggestions in the right side image is to replace the current Ascender and Descender values with those of Win Ascent and Win Descent. I opened the font with FontCreator5, but I didn't find the Font Info dialog box. I'd be willing to spend more time trying to fix this error, but only if I had made the font myself. Passing the torch...

Oct 13, 2014 at 17:39  [reply]  A question about licence fees said  
... Earlier, when talking about multiple sales of a single template, you said that a "one-time payment is the industry norm"; do you think this also applies to multiple sales of multiple templates?

If multiple templates are made by the same designer, and marketed on different sites, I'd consider that to fall under a single license. One does not purchase a font license for a single use, as if it were a condom.

daaams said  
metaphasebrothel said  
"En Nuit" is poor grammatical French for "At Night", which should be written as "En la Nuit".

i don't think "En nuit" or "En la nuit" exist in french...

The normal rules of grammar are not applicable to puns.

I think you should concentrate on monospaced fonts. The widths of the 'glyph cells' will be equal, but they might not line up exactly on a horizontal axis, because of differences in the amount of spacing on the left and right, like this one:

ixipcalli said  
metaphasebrothel said  
I think it deserves a French name. How about En Nuit?

Good idea, but do not forget to register it before someone does.
Good look!.

Dude, I was messing with you. "En Nuit" is poor grammatical French for "At Night", which should be written as "En la Nuit", but it sounds the same as "Ennui", as spotted by daaams, which means 'boredom'.

daaams said  
metaphasebrothel said  
I think it deserves a French name. How about En Nuit?

Ennui ?


I think it deserves a French name. How about En Nuit?

Oct 11, 2014 at 00:10  [reply]  CSS script for fonts

koeiekat said  
metaphasebrothel said  
SteveHi, you need to also keep in mind that not all fonts can be embedded. The font's author determines the restrictions, if any, (if they know how!). An installed font editing program is needed to see the embedding settings.

Not really, In Windows Explorer go to the font-file. Right click and click Properties and then Embedding. Then you will see the embedding settings. Ergo, no font editor needed.

Dagnabit, (spits tobacco juice), that there must be one of them newfangled ino-ervations they done put in that old new Windders I heard talk about. Run and tell yer Ma. She's in the feed shed, chattin' up on her AOL.

Oct 10, 2014 at 18:37  [reply]  CSS script for fonts

SteveHi, you need to also keep in mind that not all fonts can be embedded. The font's author determines the restrictions, if any, (if they know how!). An installed font editing program is needed to see the embedding settings.

Oct 10, 2014 at 05:05  [reply]  A question about licence fees said  
...I take your point about seeing $ signs. Whilst I would like anyone who uses any of my fonts commercially to recognise that, amateur or not, they take time and effort to create, that's not my main agenda here at all...

Oh, I hope you didn't think I meant you! I meant the people who have Adobe Illustrator and FontCreator, but haven't read the manual for either app. They churn out a steady supply of unremarkable blog fonts, and expect to put themselves through college by working a few afternoons during their teenage years. Their fonts tend to have the sort of technical errors that would never be found in a professional commercial font. Those designers should not look at the commercial use fee schedule of a major designer or foundry, and expect that their own work would command anything remotely similar.

Oct 09, 2014 at 22:54  [reply]  A question about licence fees

Steve, the main question is Has the designer ALREADY purchased a license from you? If yes, then the terms of use in YOUR license should already spell that out.

My opinion would be that a one-time payment is industry norm, but the license may apply to say, one business and one personal computer only. If a magazine publisher wanted to purchase a font for commercial use by multiple employees, it's fairly standard that more than one license purchase is reasonable to both parties.

My recently completed, (!), and soon to be released new font, (I just need to adjust the 'winding direction' for the True Type and Post Script versions, and make some supplemental files. It's much improved, compared to what you saw in June), will have an interesting, and perhaps unique commercial use license, in which the commercial licensing fee will be negotiated on a 'case by case' version, depending on who wants to use it, and how it's to be used. I'm also predesignating the design for the Public Domain, after twelve full calendar years. When it comes out, you might want to study the information I've added to the header, and the wording of my license, and possibly find some ideas you may want to incorporate in your own work.

I would also suggest that you look at some of the details pages at MyFonts about commercial use licensing fees for various types of use. You'll probably find the information to which I'm referring for one or more of Mark Simonson's fonts, and the same link on other designer's pages would show you their equivalent fee scale. I don't have the link handy, but it wouldn't surprise me if it gets posted by claudeserieux later in this thread. No one hosted on DaFont should expect to receive the sort of fees commanded by something like Le Monde Livre. Look at the ratios between the costs for various commercial usages, rather than the dollar amounts.

Too many amateur designers these days are making fonts with 'dollar signs' in front of their eyes, and equating each DaFont download to a potential license sale. Of the fonts in my collection, (specifically the ones acquired post August, 2007; the earlier ones are well organized), less than 5% have ever been extracted from their archives, and maybe one in five of those has been installed, even briefly. I download a font if I want it more than the empty disk space it would occupy. I have a lot of disk space, and I have a lot of multiple copies of the same font, mainly fonts contained within different collections, or ones I couldn't remember if I already had. That's probably true among the entire group of people who have 20 or fewer correct Font Identifications on the all-time list.


Oct 08, 2014 at 18:09  [reply]  Printing Font

Well, the embedding settings are not an issue. All four fonts are in 'anything goes' mode:

koeiekat said  
On the left the settings as they are, on the right what they must be.

The maximum image width on DaFont is 800 pixels, which is why the right side of the image, containing the useful information, is not showing, (at least, not on my monitor). See it full size here:

Turn the Paragraph Markers OFF in Microsoft Word.

Twiddle, I would recommend that you send a private message to the author, Brittney Murphy Design, and let her know about this. I wouldn't assume that she would read the General Discussion Forum. Be sure to mention that you are using Mac OS X.

This sort of problem usually affects MAC users, and it relates to problems with the font's vertical metrics, specifically, the ascender and descender values. In simple terms, the descender is the portion of a glyph that's below the base line, and the ascender is the portion above a flat topped glyph, (like the area where the accent on an accented character would be, (ascender), or the tail on the letter Q, (descender). It's quite possible she may be completely unaware that MAC users do not have the same text display in MS Word as one would with a PC.

If you have access to a Windows computer, you may get better results. We've noticed this same problem with some of the Måns Grebäck fonts, as well, (at least in the Free for Personal Use versions).

Here's a text sample of Simply*Glamorous at 34 points, using MS Word 2007 and Windows XP:

which looks fine to me.

You should also note that you may have restrictions if you are trying to print this font, at least, unless you purchase a commercial use license. The embedding settings are set as "Only printing and previewing of the document is allowed, (read only)". This may be intentional on Brittney's part, (ie: the Free for Personal Use version may be a 'try before you buy' advertisement for the 'pay' version), or that might just be the default embedding setting for the font editor she uses.

So, the problem is not with MS Word. There appears to be an error in the vertical metrics that affects MAC users, but not those using Windows. I'll bet she would be happy if you were to bring this to her attention, She does good work, but may not have read all the pages of her font editor's manual.


Oct 07, 2014 at 13:38  [reply]  FontCreator 8.0

mikkwik said  
Is in the trial version all options are available?

Yes for some of the older trial versions, no for the currently available one.

matthewfranklin said  
~Downloaded fonts cant see texture?

Kindof hard to explain but for example:

i downloaded some 3d lookin shit - but anything that has a greyscale to it just shows up black


They aren't fonts; they're emoticons.

Jaynz said  
Meta, I was only trying to explain the point of 'commercial use' not necessarily meaning 'cash exchanged'. A lot of people don't understand that distinction - and it CAN bite some people on the ass if they cross the line with a particularly nasty resource creator. Generally speaking, I wouldn't care about such use - but I admit when I see my fonts used HEAVILY for similar purposes on sites where guys sell pictures... I get a little irked.

Oh, I wasn't replying to your post, Neale. melonpan said he writes a 'fun blog' and doesn't sell anything. We don't even know which font(s) he'd like to use. I just think it would be crass for anyone to consider that to be commercial use of a FFPU font.


Geez, where I come from, only a pet aQ would charge money for a watermark on a blog photo.

Edited on Oct 02, 2014 at 19:18 by metaphasebrothel

Menhir said  
I just tried to make a joke.

"Do, or do not. There is no 'try'".

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