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Posts by metaphasebrothel

Here's how to change the vertical metrics with FontLab Studio5:

1. Decide what will be the height of your caps. It is 700 by default in Fontlab.

2. Get the current caps height of your font. Get it from the letters with flat tops like the E, F, etc.

3. Divide the large caps height by the new caps height that you want (ex 700) and then multiply that by 1000. You can either round that figure or just drop the decimals.

4. Open Font Info and click on Metrics and Dimensions. Enter the number you got in #3 in the UPM size box and make sure that scale all glyphs check box is unchecked. Click on apply.

5. Change the UPM size to 1000 and click on the scale all glyphs check box. The check box should have a check on it. Click on Apply.

6. Expand Metrics and Dimensions. Fontlab will automatically update Key Dimensions during the UPM change so there's nothing to change here. However, it does not update the value in "True Type specific metrics". So select "True Type specific metrics" and then select "Set custom values". Click on recalculate and then select "Calculate values automatically" and that will dim all values. Despite its name, the values in "True Type specific metrics" affects all fonts, not just TTF, generated by Fontlab. Even if the values set there are dimmed, those are still used by Fontlab. If you don't change the values here, the font's line height will still be the same as that of the large letters. Click OK when done.

6. See your flat topped glyphs. Their height should be at 700 (or your desired new caps height) or a unit above or below it, depending what you did in #3.

Thanks to Toto@K22 for the tutorial.

Oct 06, 2013 at 01:36  [reply]  fonts

Try copy/ pasting the .ttf file into the Fonts folder in your operating system.

Landliebe is a free font the guy made in 2001. Just use it.

koeiekat said  
Symaticc is talking about copyright transfer, not about a license to use the font. Copyright transfer of a font on dafont doesn't make much sense though, as it has probably already been downloaded by thousands and through the crappy copycat sites is and will be available in the wild. The one who would benefit from such a transfer would be the designer, several thousands Euro in the pocket in one go. Not Symaticc who paid the money for a copyright he can not protect.
If Symaticc wants a font specially and only for him, he'd better have one made for him and pay the price for design and copyright transfer.

I don't agree - I think he just wants a commercial license. I can see how his request could be interpreted both ways, but I think my understanding of the nuances of Canadian colloquial grammar exceeds yours.

Sep 28, 2013 at 12:51  [reply]  notepad file instead of ttf

Look at the icons of the files in the download .zip. If the icon looks like two overlapping capital letters T, it's a font. If it looks like a stenographer's pad, it's a text document. Text documents open with Notepad. Font files don't, unless you right-click the font file, and select Open with -> Notepad.

If the font is designated as free or public domain, you can use it for your business logo without first obtaining permission from the designer. In these cases, it would be good etiquette to inform the designer of how you plan to use their work, but that would be optional on your part.

If the font is designated as free for personal use or donationware, the terms for commercial use should be contained in a supplemental file in the download .zip file, or in the Note of the author section on the details page, (click on the banner with the text display of the font name to go to the details page).

If the terms of use are not defined in one or both of those locations, click on the designer's name on the details page. This will show you his/her/their home page, and links to see their profile, or to send them a private message.

If there is no indication of the terms of use, make a new post in this thread, with the name of the font and a link to the details page, and someone may be able to assist you. Your inquiry is too vague for anyone to provide a direct answer that would apply to all fonts hosted by DaFont.

In all cases where a payment is required to use a font commercially, the payment is made by the user to the designer. DaFont does not sell fonts, nor does it collect money on behalf of the designers whose work is hosted here. In some cases, however, there will be a link to which payment for commercial use can be made through PayPal, or a similar online account.

Sep 21, 2013 at 20:57  [reply]  What does this word mean?

koeiekat said  
metaphasebrothel said  
... He wasn't drunk, just French.

... thinking in German ...

That makes sense. I was thinking that people who are drunk slur their speech when they talk, but not when they type.

The only German I know is Schnell!, for when the guy who lives in the basement isn't shoveling the coal fast enough.

Sep 21, 2013 at 16:35  [reply]  What does this word mean?

Menhir meant better when he said besser. He wasn't drunk, just French.

Sep 21, 2013 at 16:29  [reply]  How can I contact Willy Mac

ForeverAri921 said  

ForeverAri921, AJ's e-mail address was, but I haven't had any correspondence with her in almost six years, so the address might now be inactive. Even then, she didn't have any contact information for Karla.

Twenty-nine of the WillyMac fonts are available on DaFont, The entire collection of 55 WillyMac fonts can be found at Fontspace, but she didn't upload them herself.

Sep 20, 2013 at 04:19  [reply]  JI-Nearly Font

koeiekat said  
And what might a JI-Nearly be?
And whatever a JI-Nearly might be there surely is nothing like a JI-Nearly font. Maybe just a font used by/for a JI-Nearly thing.

Fonts with a JI prefix are usually by Jeri Ingalls, (Jeri's Fonts). There's no mention of Nearly on the Luc Devroye page:

There is a font called JI Nearly available on one of download sites on the shit list.

Jeri Ingalls did a lot of dingbats and letterbats, and a few standard alphabet fonts about 10-12 years ago. From the read me docs I have, they were Free for Personal Use, but the commercial use terms aren't mentioned.

Fonts with a JI- prefix are from Jupiter Images Corporation. I have quite a few of them. They appear to be knock-offs, for the most part. JI-Schrod:

Looks an awful lot like Fontdinerdotcom:

Edited 2 times. Last edit on Sep 20, 2013 at 04:43 by metaphasebrothel

daaams said  
"too much bold kills the bold"
- daaams, 2013

"Too much ♦marijuana♦ makes someone think he is funny".


@Jay0973: Diogenes is a Free font. All of the Apostrophic Labs fonts are free. If you want the specific terms of use, here they are:

"The fonts from Apostrophic Laboratories are freeware and can be used as they are in any context without permission from Apostrophic Laboratories, except to produce material that is racist, criminal and/or illegal in nature." .

(You could have easily found this Myfonts link yourself, on any search engine).

I think the only other condition is that you must read the read me text document, and from an earlier post of yours, you've already done this.

You can use the following guidelines for other fonts:

If the font is identified as Free, you can use commercially, without asking for, or receiving permission from the designer. If the designer has contact information in DaFont, they would likely appreciate receiving an e-mail with an image of how you used their font, but that's just common courtesy, not a mandatory requirement. The user DOES NOT have the right to modify a Free font, nor can the user rename the Free font, and claim that it is their personal creation.

Most fonts made prior to 2008 were either Free or Commercial, with a small number being Shareware, (similar to Free for Personal Use, but with a small fee, usually $5 - $10, for a commercial use license).

If the font is Free for Personal Use, the definition of personal use, and the licensing fee, will vary from font to font, and may be dependent on the type of commercial use for which the font is to be used. For example, If a film studio wanted to use the font for movie titles, they might pay a higher fee than someone who wants to print a flyer for an Indy rock band that plays gigs for beer.

If the font is Donationware, you need to pay something to the author, or to some agency designated by the author, but the amount is variable, and determined by the person who is using the font commercially.

If the font is Public Domain, consider it to be the same as a free font, with, (often), the additional option for the user to have the right to modify the font, (ie: you could create additional glyphs, perhaps with an accent added to an upper or lower case letter).

If the font is Commercial, you have to pay a fee before you can download the font, and the terms of commercial use should ALWAYS be clearly and specifically defined.

If the terms of use are not clearly spelled out in one or more files contained in a download .zip from DaFont, you NEED to contact the author ONLY IF the font is Free for Personal Use or Donationware.

One other general rule, regarding the DaFont forums: You should generally disregard advice from any poster who uses smilies in lieu of text. You should pay more attention to posters who use bold text, for emphasis.

As you probably already know, smilies are for teenage girls sending text messages to each other on mobile phones. For some reason, people from Europe think smilies are cool, like wearing a thong swimsuit at the beach, regardless of their level of physical conditioning. No doubt, they are probably the same people still doing the Mexican Wave at concerts and sporting events.


Link to the Font Identification forum in English:

En Espaņol:

DaFont can be read in English, French, or Spanish, by selecting the link in the upper right corner of the browser window. Each of the three languages has a separate discussion forum, but the Font Identification forum is common to all three. The language of choice affects the parts of the page not posted by forum members.

@Jay0973: Diogenes is by Apostraphic Labs: They made a number of freeware fonts around 2000. As far as I know, all of their read me documents are anecdotal stories that have nothing to do with the terms for commercial use.

In the case of Diogenes, the story you described is relevant, to the name of the font. Diogenes of Sinope was an eccentric Greek philosopher from the 4th century BC. Legend has it that he used to dress like a hermit and walk around with a lantern in the middle of the day, 'looking for an honest man'. His image appears in the Rider-Waite-Smith Tarot card deck:

which I used for my 2007 font, GypsyTarot-MajorArcana


Edited on Sep 15, 2013 at 05:31 by metaphasebrothel

Sep 11, 2013 at 22:50  [reply]  Billy Argel Font

Buy a commercial license. All of Billy Argel's fonts on DaFont are trial/ demo versions, meaning that:

There are restrictions on how you can use them, (most likely, printing and embedding are not allowed; you could use them in an app like Microsoft Word to see the text display, but you might not be able to create a .pdf document, for example).

I think Billy has given up font making, and returned to doing skateboard designs. koeiekat may be able to provide you with contact information. As far as I know, he's no longer answering correspondence at the contact info/ site info displayed in his DaFont profile or in the 'Note of the Author' section on the details pages.

@ttttela: Try Many of the fonts available at DaFont are also available at Fontspace, and there are also many great fonts available on one of these sites, but not the other. Some type designers only submit their work to DaFont, and others only to Fontspace. Since Fontspace has no evaluation process, you'll also find some truly horrible fonts over there.

@ Menhir: I think tttela has already reviewed the fonts available at DaFont, and is looking for sites in addition to DaFont.

Sep 07, 2013 at 23:01  [reply]  license plate font issue

It's also not especially well made. Notice how the height of flat topped glyphs is inconsistent, as is the base line, and the width of vertical strokes. It's a free font, and probably as good as the author could do, when he made it.

Limiting embedding may have been the default setting in Fontographer 4.1 - I'm not sure. Without changing the embedding settings, you probably can't print the font, or allow it to be seen in an electronic document, by someone who does not have the font installed. I think you probably knew that; I wrote it for the other people reading the thread who didn't know.


Sep 07, 2013 at 08:41  [reply]  license plate font issue

You should provide a link/ links to the specific font(s) you're talking about. If you're seeing these jagged edges and pixelation when used on a telephone, the chances are good that there are no problems with the font itself. If you have these problems when you try to use the font on a computer, You may need to change your font smoothing settings in your System preferences. It's also possible that the font(s) you're talking about was/were poorly designed by amateurs, and the edges are rough because there are too many nodes on the contours, (ie: instead of one long, smooth line, there are a series of shorter lines, with roughly the same slope). Such a font may look OK at a few point sizes, but it will deteriorate, if the image is enlarged, or made smaller.

Without knowing exactly what font(s) you're talking about, there's no way to offer you specific help. You really should have included that information, and links to the fonts, in your first post.

Most likely, this font was sumitted to DaFont by someone other than its author. According to the information on the details page, it was submitted "before 2005", and details in the font file suggest that the final version was generated on March 19, 2002. There is no designer information included in the Font Info, and embedding is not allowed.

In 2002, almost every font fell into one of three categories:

1) Commercial - a license fee was required to both download the font, and use it commercially.

2) Shareware - A small fee, usually around $5, was required for commercial use. This information was usually included in the header.

3) Freeware: Personal and commercial use of the font was allowed, without payment to the author.

The prevalence of 'free for personal use' fonts is a relatively new phenomena. Most non-commercial designers used to offer their work as freeware, to give back to the Design Community for the freeware fonts, designed by other people, that they collected and used. They often did this anonymously, with no designer information contained in the font file itself.

There is a reasonable chance that Starstruck might be a clone of an earlier font. It may also be a 'semi-original' design - To me, it looks like someone took an existing font, and added flourishes.

The embedding settings will probably limit the ways that you can use this font. If you know how to change them, you'll likely have no problems using it commercially. Someone might claim to be the author, but how would they prove it?

I don't tell people how to change embedding settings in forum posts. Some of the other DaFont forum moderators, the ones who are also designers of Free for Personal Use fonts, will bite my head off, if I do. Limiting the embedding of a font is a way that a font author can restrict the use of their font beyond typing text in a Microsoft Word doc. A lot of FFPU fonts are strictly advertising for the licensed version. They allow you to type a text sample, but not much else. It's common for older freeware fonts to have embedding restrictions, but a legitimately purchased licensed version should be able to be used without restriction.

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