I think the second one is this:
Looks like a modified version of Avant Garde. I don't think it's a real font though.
Bearbeitet am 08.05.2011 um 15:56 von notfon1234
Anyone know what font this is?
Bold...
Bearbeitet am 01.05.2011 um 21:21 von rocamaco
It's the closest ones that I could find.

looks more like Helvetica Bold to me.
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