SteveHi, you need to also keep in mind that not all fonts can be embedded. The font's author determines the restrictions, if any, (if they know how!). An installed font editing program is needed to see the embedding settings.
...I take your point about seeing $ signs. Whilst I would like anyone who uses any of my fonts commercially to recognise that, amateur or not, they take time and effort to create, that's not my main agenda here at all...
Oh, I hope you didn't think I meant you! I meant the people who have Adobe Illustrator
, but haven't read the manual for either app. They churn out a steady supply of unremarkable blog
fonts, and expect to put themselves through college by working a few afternoons during their teenage years. Their fonts tend to have the sort of technical errors that would never be found in a professional commercial font. Those designers should not look at the commercial use fee schedule of a major designer or foundry, and expect that their own work would command anything remotely similar.
My opinion would be that a one-time payment is industry norm, but the license may apply to say, one business and one personal computer only. If a magazine publisher wanted to purchase a font for commercial use by multiple employees, it's fairly standard that more than one license purchase is reasonable to both parties.
My recently completed, (!), and soon to be released new font, (I just need to adjust the 'winding direction' for the True Type and Post Script versions, and make some supplemental files. It's much improved, compared to what you saw in June), will have an interesting, and perhaps unique commercial use license, in which the commercial licensing fee will be negotiated on a 'case by case' version, depending on who wants to use it, and how it's to be used. I'm also predesignating the design for the Public Domain, after twelve full calendar years. When it comes out, you might want to study the information I've added to the header, and the wording of my license, and possibly find some ideas you may want to incorporate in your own work.
I would also suggest that you look at some of the details pages at MyFonts about commercial use licensing fees for various types of use. You'll probably find the information to which I'm referring for one or more of Mark Simonson's fonts, and the same link on other designer's pages would show you their equivalent fee scale. I don't have the link handy, but it wouldn't surprise me if it gets posted by claudeserieux later in this thread. No one hosted on DaFont should expect to receive the sort of fees commanded by something like Le Monde Livre. Look at the ratios between the costs for various commercial usages, rather than the dollar amounts.
Too many amateur designers these days are making fonts with 'dollar signs' in front of their eyes, and equating each DaFont download to a potential license sale. Of the fonts in my collection, (specifically the ones acquired post August, 2007; the earlier ones are well organized), less than 5% have ever been extracted from their archives, and maybe one in five of those has been installed, even briefly. I download a font if I want it more than the empty disk space it would occupy. I have a lot of disk space, and I have a lot of multiple copies of the same font, mainly fonts contained within different collections, or ones I couldn't remember if I already had. That's probably true among the entire group of people who have 20 or fewer correct Font Identifications on the all-time list.
Well, the embedding settings
are not an issue. All four fonts are in 'anything goes' mode:
On the left the settings as they are, on the right what they must be.
The maximum image width on DaFont
is 800 pixels, which is why the right side of the image, containing the useful information, is not showing, (at least, not on my
monitor). See it full size here: http://koeiekat.com/images/sg.png
Turn the Paragraph Markers OFF
in Microsoft Word.
, I would recommend that you send a private message to the author, Brittney Murphy Design
, and let her know about this. I wouldn't assume that she would read the General Discussion Forum
. Be sure to mention that you are using Mac OS X.
This sort of problem usually affects MAC users, and it relates to problems with the font's vertical metrics, specifically, the ascender and descender values. In simple terms, the descender is the portion of a glyph that's below the base line, and the ascender is the portion above a flat topped glyph, (like the area where the accent on an accented character would be, (ascender), or the tail on the letter Q, (descender). It's quite possible she may be completely unaware that MAC users do not have the same text display in MS Word
as one would with a PC.
If you have access to a Windows computer, you may get better results. We've noticed this same problem with some of the Måns Grebäck
fonts, as well, (at least in the Free for Personal Use versions).
Here's a text sample of Simply*Glamorous
at 34 points, using MS Word 2007
and Windows XP:
which looks fine to me.
You should also note that you may
have restrictions if you are trying to print this font, at least, unless you purchase a commercial use license. The embedding settings are set as "Only printing and previewing of the document is allowed, (read only)". This may be intentional on Brittney's part, (ie: the Free for Personal Use
version may be a 'try before you buy' advertisement for the 'pay' version), or that might just be the default embedding setting for the font editor she uses.
So, the problem is not with MS Word. There appears to be an error in the vertical metrics that affects MAC users, but not those using Windows. I'll bet she would be happy if you were to bring this to her attention, She does good work, but may not have read all the pages of her font editor's manual.
Is in the trial version all options are available?
Yes for some of the older trial versions, no for the currently available one.
Meta, I was only trying to explain the point of 'commercial use' not necessarily meaning 'cash exchanged'. A lot of people don't understand that distinction - and it CAN bite some people on the ass if they cross the line with a particularly nasty resource creator. Generally speaking, I wouldn't care about such use - but I admit when I see my fonts used HEAVILY for similar purposes on sites where guys sell pictures... I get a little irked.
Oh, I wasn't replying to your post, Neale. melonpan
said he writes a 'fun blog' and doesn't sell anything. We don't even know which font(s) he'd like to use. I just think it would be crass for anyone
to consider that to be commercial use of a FFPU font.
Geez, where I come from, only a pet aQ
would charge money for a watermark on a blog photo.
Edited on Oct 02, 2014 at 19:18 by metaphasebrothel
The original cover of Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D
#4, (September 1968 issue):
had the bullet holes in the logo, but apparently, they were removed from at least one reprinting. I can tell that this cover was used for the image in post #1, because the Statue of Liberty's torch covers part of the logo. I actually have all but one of the Strange Tales/ Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D
issues drawn by Jim Steranko
, but most would only be graded in the G-VG range, so the lot of them is probably only worth about a hundred bucks.
The Nick Fury, Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D
logo is custom lettering by Artie Simek
. If it was a font, the error at upper left on the S would have been corrected, before release.
I think there's a dingbat glyph of the logo in Knock Furious
, by Daniel Zadorozny
. It's not available on DaFont
, but you can find it on his home page, http://iconian.com
... I saw contact E-mail after I created this topic and sent my message to that e-mail with link to this topic. Still no any answer...
Even if you sent the e-mail immediately
after your first post in this thread, that's only about nine hours ago. The designer lives in India. He probably doesn't check his e-mails in the middle of the night. He might not even check them during the weekend, if it's a business account. You need to be a lot
Ummm, why did you send a private message, instead of following the font author's instruction to send commercial use inquiries to the e-mail address shown in the Note of the Author? It's not like you need a degree in rocket surgery. Just sayin'.
HeidiC HeidiC said
Well, I wish I could say what worked, but I'm not really sure. I tried to right-click the download button, but I didn't get "Save Target As..." I just got "Save As..." That got me the "seems to be an invalid font" error message. I went back to try again, but just hovering over the download button, it gave me a new message of "47KB" and I thought, hey, that's new! So, I clicked and it downloaded. Still couldn't get it to extract properly, so I searched the forums for "invalid font" and found the suggestion to save it to a random folder on my machine, then copy it to my fonts folder. THAT WORKED! I hope it keeps working! Thanks, metaphasebbrothel.
, there's nothing suspicious about the "47KB" message in a yellow screen tip box. Yhat just means that the file size of the .zip file is 47 kilobytes.
I think 'Save Target As...' is the specific wording for Internet Explorer. In Firefox, the equivalent selection in the shortcuts menu would be 'Save Link As...'. The description should be similar when using Chrome, or another different browser. This method should open the Save As dialog box. If you just left-click on the Download button, (when it's working properly, for you). most likely, your downloads of all types would go into the same folder; for me, it's My Documents\Downloads, the default saving directory for Firefox.
The default saving location can be changed in Firefox by selecting Tools from the menu bar, and Options from the menu. In the Options dialog box, the saving location can be seen, set or modified under the General Tab. It's probably a similar procedure for Chrome. With Firefox, you might also want to select Downloads from Tools in the menu bar. This will open a separate non-browser window of Firefox, which will show you the status of your downloads, perhaps going back weeks or even months. If a download completed properly, you'll see the file name, type, size, site of origin, and the day/time the download completed. If the download failed, there will be a notation to that effect. If there's no record, (and assuming you didn't clear past results), you'll know the download connection was never made.
If you download anything from bit torrents, however, the torrent files themselves WILL appear in the Firefox downloads window, but completed files downloaded through the torrent will not; they'll only be listed in your torrent client.
HeidiC, try right-clicking on the Download button, and selecting 'Save Target As...' from the shortcuts menu, then save the download manually. This won't solve the problem of why left-clicking on the Download button isn't working, but it should allow you to download .zip files from DaFont.
If this does work, please post the result, and other people who are having the same problem can do the same. If it doesn't work, post that information as well - it will help in diagnosing the cause of your problem, especially because it doesn't originate at DaFont.
I don't think he needs more than Word and Paint. Not for a Geronimo Fonts font.
If the font has already been made, and the object is to display some sample text in a graphic, what I would do is:
a) install the font,
b) type the text in MS Word at a point size 133% larger than the size at which I would like it to appear in the graphic,
c) copy the text,
d) paste it into a blank MS Paint document, and
e) save as .png.
The copy/paste from Word to Paint reduces the text size to 75%, which is why the size in Word should be 4/3 larger than the intended size of the graphic.
Edited on Sep 24, 2014 at 04:09 by metaphasebrothel
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